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Human Not Hollywood: Why Imperfect Video Beats Polished Ads

Show: Aspire for More with Erin
Host: Erin Thompson
Guest: Peter Murphy Lewis
Aired: 14 August 2025

Episode on the show: “Be Human not Hollywood with Documentarian Peter Murphy Lewis”

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In this episode

About halfway through this episode Peter Murphy Lewis hands over the line that has carried People Worth Caring About further than any campaign plan, and it is not his. Jaylene Carpenter, the CEO of the Nebraska Health Care Association, coined it after the first season aired. Asked why the thing was resonating, she said it was because it is human, not Hollywood. Peter repeats the phrase three times in a row later in the conversation, which is unusual for him.

The host is Erin Thompson, a keynote speaker, leadership and confidence coach and former executive director who now works with senior living leaders. She had watched the documentary before recording and says she almost started filling out applications afterwards. The billing was the making of the film. What the episode actually turned into is a production manual for leaders who will never commission a film at all.

That is what makes it worth reading rather than only listening to. Peter gives away the method: no script, a phone, three to seven minutes, the perfectionist marketer removed from the room, and a short list of questions designed to pay the organization back. He also says most of the value never depended on the crew. “You can do this on your own,” he tells Erin, and then explains exactly how. For more on this, see our article on testimonial video versus customer stories.

Key Takeaways

1. Polished long-term care video fails because everybody already knows it is fake

Peter’s objection to glossy production is not the cost. It is that the audience does not believe it. “The polished videos that we have put out in long term care, everybody knows that they’re fake,” he says. His reasoning is simple. Anyone who has been inside a nursing home, and plenty who have not, knows it is not perfect and does not look like a Ritz Carlton. Produce something that does, he says, and it immediately comes off as superficial. The credibility gap opens in the first few seconds, before a word of the message lands.

2. The perfectionist marketer should be the first person out of the room

“You need to kick the marketers out of the room who want perfection,” Peter says. “This is progress over perfection. You’re better off doing a video that has problems than one that’s doing perfect.” His replacement is not another agency. “You should let a CNA who is good at TikTok to run this,” he says. The logic is that someone who already knows how the platform reads, and already knows the building and the people in it, will produce something more believable than anyone optimizing for a finished object.

3. A phone and a three to seven minute unscripted chat clear the entire production bar

The kit list is deliberately short. Peter asks for “longer, unscripted chats, three to seven minute recording with your cell phone,” and says plainly that you do not need a camera and you do not need a microphone. Erin pushes back on exactly one thing, lighting, and he concedes it at once: good lighting, good angles, film it in the main lobby. He goes further and says any executive with a child between twelve and twenty-five has someone at home who could do a better job than he did, if that person listens well and asks questions.

4. The interview question should pay the organization back, not just flatter the person

Peter treats the questions as the real asset. Rather than asking a caregiver why she became a CNA, he would ask someone who has worked in a building for thirteen years to define it in one word. That answer, he says, works for staffing, works for prospects before they tour, and “it’s going to work for retention. It’s going to work for sales and work for marketing.” His second question is better still: name a moment in the last week when the mission was acted out and nobody got any credit for it.

5. Caregivers are far harder to film than residents

Residents are the easy part, which surprises most people who try this. “The caregivers are usually very, very nervous,” Peter says, and he puts it down to temperament rather than stage fright. If you take the five love languages seriously, he says, most caregivers run on service, and service is not good at speaking about itself. “They’re delivering dignity every single day,” he says, and they do it in the darkness. Anyone filming their own team should expect the people with the best material to be the least willing to sit down.

6. The format only works because leaders agreed to give up screen time

Peter names what he calls an elephant in the room. Across the series the administrators, executive directors, directors of nursing and CEOs get “less than 30 seconds almost on every single episode,” and that is intentional, organized by his director so the story stays with the caregivers. Not every leader will accept it. Some worry that visibility hands frontline staff leverage. The ones who said yes took the back seat, and Peter argues that is precisely why the footage reads as true rather than as an internal promotion.

Rapid Fire Q&A

Q: How did your journey get you to making this documentary?
A: About two years ago he keynoted at the Nebraska Health Care Association and met Jeff of its foundation, pitching a long-term care version of the work-focused television he had made in South America. Jaylene Carpenter, the association CEO, told him to price it. They decided in November 2023, filmed in April 2024 and aired that October.

Q: Did becoming a CNA change how you filmed?
A: He says it gave him street cred, and with it confidence, since people can be standoffish when cameras arrive. More than that it changed his understanding. Before the training he thought the job was beds and diapers. Afterwards he understood the resident relationship, the regulation, the shifts and the holidays, and he listened better.

Q: What surprised you most about the whole project?
A: How good the stories look on a big screen. His pre-production fear was that it would flop, that caregivers would freeze, that the images would be too slow or that residents would not be shown with the dignity they deserve. Three seasons in, he says that fear has gone.

Q: Why documentary rather than a campaign?
A: He cites Ken Burns saying stories are the only true way to change somebody’s opinion. Long-form also lets people show their contradictions, which viewers relate to. He adds that documentaries have the highest completion rate across the streaming apps, so the platforms are pushing them.

Q: What is coming next?
A: The New Mexico season aired on 22 August 2025, with Peter traveling there to keynote. After that come film festival applications and a Netflix submission. Two more states are booked for next year, Kentucky around March or April and then North Dakota. His stated dream is all fifty states.

What This Means for Senior Living Leaders Filming Their Own Teams

The useful thing in this episode is not the documentary. It is the permission. Most communities are not short of stories, they are short of a standard low enough to actually start. Progress over perfection is a production instruction, but it functions as a license: film the corridor as it is, keep the pause where someone loses their thread, and publish it anyway. The version with problems is the version people believe.

Decide what the footage is for before you press record. Peter’s questions are engineered so that one short clip serves several jobs at once, which is why he asks about the building rather than about the person’s biography. A caregiver describing thirteen years in one word gives you a recruitment asset, a tour asset and a retention asset from the same three minutes. A question about a moment nobody got credit for gives you the housekeeper and the dietitian too.

Expect the hard part to be consent and comfort rather than production. Your best subjects will be the most reluctant, your leadership team has to accept being nearly invisible, and the language you use on camera matters more than the lens. Peter tells a story against himself here: he described a resident’s space in New Mexico as a beautiful room, and the man wrote back to correct him, because it is his home. He kept the correction.

The series that came out of this method is the People Worth Caring About docuseries, filmed state by state with associations choosing the communities. Operators who would rather have it done properly than do it on a phone can start with Strategic Pete’s documentary video production services, which apply the same unscripted approach at a production standard.

Listen to the Full Episode

This conversation aired on 14 August 2025 on Aspire for More with Erin, hosted by Erin Thompson, as “Be Human not Hollywood with Documentarian Peter Murphy Lewis”. Erin is a keynote speaker, leadership and confidence coach and a former executive director, and the show is built around owning your story so you can create your future. Listen to the full episode on Aspire for More with Erin.

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Peter has founded four companies in 20 years, coached over 200 CEOs, and currently serves as VP of Marketing for a real estate data software company.

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